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| @juiceme | Good Juhannus everybody :) | 01:41 |
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| @juiceme | (Juhannus = Midsommer Festival in finland...) | 01:41 |
| rikanee | ohai juiceme! | 01:43 |
| @juiceme | ohai rikanee | 02:06 |
| @juiceme | Midsummer's up :) | 02:06 |
| rikanee | juiceme: sigh, I wish my summer's still half-up ;) | 02:06 |
| rikanee | first year uni now, and wow, it's… different from secondary. | 02:07 |
| @juiceme | sure it is, I've used up less than half of my summer leave, am back at work for a week and then back to leave... | 02:07 |
| @juiceme | ah sure, it _does_ get a bit difficulter from there on :) | 02:07 |
| @juiceme | what are you majoring on? | 02:08 |
| @juiceme | and don't ya have summer leave from uni? | 02:08 |
| rikanee | juiceme: summer's April - June, majoring in BS Medical Technology, then taking up Medicine. | 02:09 |
| @juiceme | ah, you have a bit skewed calendar from what we are using :) | 02:10 |
| rikanee | yep. rainy season now, and it kinda sucks because our uni's flood-prone D: | 02:10 |
| @juiceme | Medical was one of my original plans, but it turned out I went to Mechanical Eng instead. | 02:10 |
| rikanee | juiceme: I'd have went for EE, but the jobs here suck for that | 02:11 |
| @juiceme | lots of floods around now... I knew central europe is drenched and just today saw that same happens in americas also... | 02:11 |
| @juiceme | well I have been lucky in that, there's also been some unemplyment here but I've always found work | 02:12 |
| @juiceme | it was kind of funny BTW how I ended up where I did... I missed the entry exams to Medical by a week! I had the wrong date on my calendar and when I showed up for the exams there was nobody there... :( | 02:13 |
| @juiceme | I had already been accepted for Mechanical/Robotics so that's where I went. | 02:14 |
| @juiceme | lotsa things could have been different otherways, maybe | 02:15 |
| @juiceme | not that I have done much on my line of work, though. | 02:16 |
| @juiceme | I've done test equipment design, RF board design, embedded SW, IP stack SW, network processor SW, telecommunications signalling SW... what else? | 02:17 |
| rikanee | juiceme: ah man, if only the high-tech industry actually was here, things would've turned out differently ;) | 02:43 |
| @juiceme | hmm, here being? | 02:44 |
| rikanee | …the Philippines. | 02:44 |
| rikanee | IIRC Intel has a fab/assembly here, but the design group isn't here so meh | 02:44 |
| @juiceme | but I _know_ at least they used to make almost all 74xx chips there, back when :) | 02:44 |
| @juiceme | factories, yes. | 02:45 |
| rikanee | IIRC Intel makes ICHx and Atom chips here, saw the Philippines mark etched on a lot of 'em | 02:45 |
| @juiceme | but we have to try to work where we can, and it's always possible to migrate/expat, if things get too tight. | 02:46 |
| @juiceme | finland also, is not that high-tech, not when comparing to california I guess. | 02:47 |
| rikanee | juiceme: mmm. Thought of migrating once to the US/Europe/Japan, but then again, it's actually quite convenient to live here :| | 02:47 |
| rikanee | cost of living, etc. Assuming you make US$40k equivalent here, you can live like a king. | 02:47 |
| @juiceme | and as Nokia has been moving operations off from finland too, it might not be that long that the last lights are shut off from those offices :( | 02:49 |
| rikanee | juiceme: not even the HQ? | 02:49 |
| @juiceme | it's still there but for how long? | 02:50 |
| rikanee | mmm. | 02:50 |
| rikanee | they sold off the HQ, right? | 02:50 |
| @juiceme | yes, sold the building and rented it back. | 02:50 |
| rikanee | I figure it's a matter of time until they simply rebrand ODM WPx platforms. | 02:50 |
| @juiceme | it's what lots of companies do, actually but I'd say its symbolically bad, looks like a desperate move even if financially sound. | 02:51 |
| rikanee | it's pretty short-sighted, imo. | 02:52 |
| @juiceme | last week there's been lots of talks in the news about Nokia being sold off to either MS or HTC | 02:52 |
| rikanee | penny-wise, pound-foolish. | 02:52 |
| @juiceme | sure | 02:52 |
| rikanee | iirc, the deal fell through with MS, but HTC? | 02:52 |
| @juiceme | but nowdays all large companies are run by penny-pinching accountatnts | 02:52 |
| rikanee | aren't their investors still reeling from the Beats acquisition? | 02:53 |
| @juiceme | I don't see real value for HTC | 02:53 |
| @juiceme | what could they gain from Nokia | 02:53 |
| rikanee | ^+ | 02:53 |
| @juiceme | true | 02:53 |
| rikanee | they've already got their Qualcomm chips and WP8 phones, and unless they want the Lumia design, they're not really in a position to need Nokia | 02:54 |
| @juiceme | what I see inevitable in the long run, Nokia will be split into parts and sold off separately. Nowody needs the whole company | 02:54 |
| rikanee | and with Qualcomm holding the LTE and LTE-A patents, Nokia's IP will eventually fall into obsolesence. | 02:54 |
| @juiceme | somebody gets the patent portfolio, somebody the mobile bits and somebody the networks | 02:55 |
| @juiceme | I have to say I don't know the depth of Nokia's portfolio, nots of essentials on WCDMA but how much on LTE...? | 02:56 |
| rikanee | well, the fact that Qualcomm and only 1 or 2 others make LTE radios, that should say much | 02:57 |
| @juiceme | I belive there has to be quite a few LTE essentials, too, or Nokia would have opposed LTE on ITU | 02:57 |
| @juiceme | they at least _did_ wield a lot of power there when the standard was chosen | 02:58 |
| rikanee | mmm. | 02:58 |
| rikanee | let's see how it eventually plays out. | 03:00 |
| @juiceme | Nokia uses QC chipsets on the lumia devices but I rather think that's because of MS, as WP is provided on the chipsets | 03:00 |
| rikanee | juiceme: yep, MS' reference BSP is Qualcomm. | 03:00 |
| @juiceme | forecasting is difficult business, especialy forecasring future :) | 03:01 |
| rikanee | also a large part of the reason why WP7,8,and WinRT still run on HD2 ;) | 03:01 |
| @juiceme | yes :) | 03:01 |
| @juiceme | wonder what Jolla will be running on, as it should have LTE from the bebinning? | 03:02 |
| @juiceme | s/beebinning/beginning | 03:02 |
| rikanee | rumors are, the STE NovaThor U85xx. | 03:02 |
| rikanee | they've already put out a PR that they've got a BSP for Sailfish on it, and they do have a LTE radio | 03:03 |
| @juiceme | if those are still on the table when production starts... | 03:03 |
| rikanee | mmm. | 03:03 |
| @juiceme | hmmh, should propably go to bed.. it's 3:05 AM here... | 03:04 |
| rikanee | the Slush devices were definitely protos. | 03:04 |
| rikanee | night, juiceme. | 03:04 |
| @juiceme | gnite | 03:04 |
| @juiceme | and happy studying :) :) | 03:04 |
| rikanee | IIRC they haven't even finalized the spec sheet, so we'll still have to see what they put in. | 03:04 |
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