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| juiceme | hiya! | 23:01 |
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| peterleinchen | hello :) | 23:05 |
| juiceme | how's the spring coming along there? | 23:05 |
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| peterleinchen | warm and sunny, really nice | 23:06 |
| Oksanaa | Rain, hail, wind, thunder | 23:06 |
| juiceme | i'm a bit jealous... fairly cold here still | 23:06 |
| peterleinchen | oh, autumn has joined ;) | 23:06 |
| peterleinchen | but you may go boarding ... | 23:07 |
| Oksanaa | That's a storm outside here... Glad I am not in Newcastle, though | 23:07 |
| juiceme | mmh, as I remember the storms in AUS can be fairly severe but not that cold :) | 23:07 |
| juiceme | boarding, no, that's over for the spring now. | 23:08 |
| juiceme | next time we'll have snow is 8 months or so... but it's definitely cold still (~ +5 celsus) | 23:09 |
| Oksanaa | Well, the hail does not reach the ground, I think... Just touches the skin. But there was a time when hail did reach the ground, and it was 1cm sized I think. I remember mentioning it on #neo900 so you can find more details in logs ;-) | 23:10 |
| juiceme | :) | 23:10 |
| juiceme | regarding #neo900, when's the store opening? | 23:11 |
| juiceme | I thought it was to be imminent but no mention of it during the last week... | 23:11 |
| Oksanaa | Soon-ish? Not sure, but I would guess within one month... | 23:11 |
| Oksanaa | I do not know much. On TMO, vouchers were mentioned, right? | 23:12 |
| juiceme | hope so, looking forward to it | 23:12 |
| juiceme | well I'd just like to top up my payment :) | 23:12 |
| Oksanaa | vouchers are a way to let the store identify how much you have paid during pre-store period | 23:13 |
| juiceme | yes, I suppose it can be a bit of a hurdle to track, since the original payments went to Goldelico | 23:14 |
| Oksanaa | Yes, summing up Goldelico-100-EUR, and later Bank-or-PayPal payment(s) is a task for a human. | 23:16 |
| Oksanaa | Quite complicated, but better than Time-Travel paradoxes. | 23:16 |
| juiceme | I have all confidence it can be tracked correctly. It's not about thousands of devices really | 23:17 |
| Oksanaa | :-) | 23:17 |
| juiceme | ya, would need the doctor to sort that out :) | 23:17 |
| Oksanaa | :-D | 23:18 |
| juiceme | on another topic... I just cannot get why people keep spinning up the rumours of Nokia-returning-to-mobiles... | 23:19 |
| Oksanaa | Okay, how is it going with PHP code? Anybody willing to read it? ;-) | 23:19 |
| * Oksanaa , too | 23:19 | |
| juiceme | nobody commented yet | 23:19 |
| juiceme | so what I am going to do, unless prohibited, is to set up the new PHP in our next election | 23:20 |
| juiceme | that'll ebe the acid test :) | 23:20 |
| Oksanaa | It's like, Nokia phones are legendary, just like Siemens, and as long as Nokia is even remotely in hardware market, people will hope for something being made again? | 23:20 |
| Oksanaa | :-) And what's the difference between auto-calc and manual-calc? | 23:21 |
| Oksanaa | Like, which code does not get executed during manual-calculation, or gets executed differently? | 23:22 |
| juiceme | yes I get the nostalgia, but still... people should look around and take a clue. It has been well and throughly explained that Nokia has lost/sold/trashed the capacity to design and make mobiles, the people are not there, the experiance has gone to other companies... | 23:23 |
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| Oksanaa | Welcome gerbick! | 23:23 |
| Oksanaa | Did I guess correctly? | 23:23 |
| juiceme | I still have no idea why the automatic results didn't work the last ime | 23:24 |
| guest_101 | just a gest | 23:24 |
| guest_101 | guest | 23:24 |
| Oksanaa | Welcome, nevertheless :-) | 23:24 |
| juiceme | is guest 102 fllowing then? :) | 23:24 |
| guest_101 | ;) | 23:24 |
| juiceme | :p | 23:24 |
| Oksanaa | There was an idea that auto-import of ballot-database failed, for some reason? | 23:27 |
| Oksanaa | Is it done differently for manual calculation? | 23:28 |
| juiceme | but anyway, about the results calculation, I'd imagine if the next time too it will not give the automatic results then I'll believe there's something really wrong. If not, I'm ready to treat it as a once-off glitch. | 23:28 |
| Oksanaa | Once-off which happened in the past, too ;-) if I remember correctly. A glitch, yes, but not once-off? | 23:29 |
| juiceme | might be the empty ballots caused something? (i think that was one consideration) | 23:29 |
| Oksanaa | Invalid ballots, yes... | 23:29 |
| juiceme | well yes, it also happened before | 23:29 |
| juiceme | to fully verify it we'd need to have a full-scale installation to test it | 23:30 |
| juiceme | or at least a more accurate copy of the garage www server | 23:31 |
| Oksanaa | What's the php file for reading the ballots, which may be sensitive to validness of ballots?... And gets executed differently when auto or manual calculation? | 23:31 |
| juiceme | unlike just the php code which can be tested fairly well separetely | 23:31 |
| Oksanaa | Did the auto-calculation leave any error logs to look at? | 23:32 |
| juiceme | cannot remember offhand. However the results of the ballots are handled off to the calculator which then tallies it and writes the html report | 23:33 |
| juiceme | no error logs that I found | 23:33 |
| Oksanaa | Why does Modest display %2F between [Google Mail] and All Mail? | 23:34 |
| juiceme | %2F? | 23:35 |
| Oksanaa | Yes, like encoded Space? | 23:35 |
| juiceme | ah | 23:35 |
| juiceme | have no experience on that, I am not using my N900 for mail | 23:36 |
| juiceme | maybe peterleinchen knows? | 23:36 |
| peterleinchen | no idea, what oksana is talking about | 23:37 |
| Oksanaa | :-) I am not using it much, but it works well for finding links sent to somebody. | 23:37 |
| peterleinchen | using it as main mail client :) | 23:38 |
| Oksanaa | For GMail, too? | 23:38 |
| peterleinchen | have a gmail account but NOT using that one much ;) | 23:38 |
| juiceme | I am not using gmail myself, but I did create&configure an accout for my mother during the holidays :) | 23:39 |
| peterleinchen | just took a look and looks allright on my side | 23:39 |
| juiceme | I am of the mind, that email is one of the things youreally want to be in control by yourself... am not outsourcing that service to google or anybody else :) | 23:40 |
| Oksanaa | Hmm... I am on CSSU-Testing. Up-to-date, afaik | 23:41 |
| peterleinchen | you have latest tinymail and camel libs from cssu devel? else you might run into probs | 23:41 |
| juiceme | in fact it is maybe the *most* private service you have... so why let big-G peek into your boxes? | 23:41 |
| Oksanaa | jiceme: I haven't even put my bookmarks into order, so managing my own mail is not something I am willing to try, yet. | 23:42 |
| Oksanaa | juiceme* | 23:42 |
| juiceme | hehe :) | 23:42 |
| juiceme | I am of the hamster kind... never delete any mail if I can avoid it... | 23:42 |
| juiceme | and with good client/server setup easy to search when I need to remember something | 23:43 |
| Oksanaa | It's like, I have Nokia N900 (with hyperslow Fennec and https-less Links), laptop (with Chrome, Firefox and Seamonkey), and work-computer (with Chrome and Firefox) | 23:43 |
| Oksanaa | :-) | 23:43 |
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| juiceme | am using Tbird and roundcube (web frontend) | 23:44 |
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| juiceme | and Jolla as my main mobile device | 23:45 |
| Win7Mac | hi | 23:45 |
| juiceme | hiya :) | 23:45 |
| Oksanaa | So, I am really thinking about setting up bookmark-syncing between these multiple points. But I am not going to use cloud, no. | 23:45 |
| Oksanaa | Welcome Win7Mac | 23:45 |
| Win7Mac | juiceme, didn't you clean the code of election machine? | 23:45 |
| juiceme | Oksanaa, I also don't sync my bookmarks. But caring for mail is a different thing :) | 23:46 |
| Win7Mac | probably an error introduced there? | 23:46 |
| juiceme | Win7Mac, the error we are talking about (automatic vote calculation hickups) happened on pristine code | 23:47 |
| juiceme | the modification I made later which enables sending PURL links with election mail does not touch that part. (and has not been updated to the main www server yet) | 23:48 |
| Win7Mac | ok, hm... | 23:48 |
| juiceme | but as I said before I am going to introduce that in next elections, unless overrided by good reasons :) | 23:49 |
| juiceme | and about cleaning the code, yes, I thought about it for a while, possibilities like rewriting it in node.js but that's just a thought, haven't done anything to it yet. | 23:50 |
| peterleinchen | Win7Mac, any ideas/plans how to transfer from Hildon to e.V.? monetary and legally? | 23:54 |
| Win7Mac | Did you look at http://www.openstv.org/ ? | 23:54 |
| Win7Mac | peterleinchen, no clue :( | 23:55 |
| juiceme | openstv is what is used | 23:55 |
| Win7Mac | Jaffa is the only only who really can do anything | 23:56 |
| peterleinchen | so how to convince him to do this one time effort? | 23:56 |
| Oksanaa | Who would email him? | 23:56 |
| Win7Mac | i tried several times and i resigned | 23:57 |
| Oksanaa | He will not be poked anymore once all HiFo things are transferred to MCeV? | 23:57 |
| Oksanaa | No reply? Does that mean he no longer uses that email, or something? | 23:58 |
| juiceme | could be he's sick, has moved, has had some personal things gone differntly...? | 23:59 |
| Win7Mac | no. and he does reply, butr mainly telling lets wait (up to recently) and being busy... | 23:59 |
| juiceme | ah then, the wait could be over soon | 23:59 |
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